{"id":3225,"date":"2025-07-30T10:31:36","date_gmt":"2025-07-30T10:31:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ectahub.net\/?page_id=3225"},"modified":"2025-07-31T09:22:45","modified_gmt":"2025-07-31T09:22:45","slug":"curiosity-didnt-kill-the-cat","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/ectahub.net\/sv\/curiosity-didnt-kill-the-cat\/","title":{"rendered":"curiosity-didnt-kill-the-cat"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"3225\" class=\"elementor elementor-3225\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9ae40f7 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"9ae40f7\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3c393957 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"3c393957\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">EPISODE 13: Curiosity Didn't Kill the Cat<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-64f78c7c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"64f78c7c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-351007fc e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"351007fc\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d5e3e5f elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"d5e3e5f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/ectahub.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/Big-Dreams-Curiousity-didnt-kill-the-cat-1024x1024.webp\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-3230\" alt=\"Curious Cat bouncing the logotype of Podcast Big Dreams &amp; Little Things. Cover for Episode 13 - Curiosity Didn&apos;t Kill the Cat.\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ectahub.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/Big-Dreams-Curiousity-didnt-kill-the-cat-1024x1024.webp 1024w, https:\/\/ectahub.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/Big-Dreams-Curiousity-didnt-kill-the-cat-300x300.webp 300w, https:\/\/ectahub.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/Big-Dreams-Curiousity-didnt-kill-the-cat-150x150.webp 150w, https:\/\/ectahub.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/Big-Dreams-Curiousity-didnt-kill-the-cat-768x768.webp 768w, https:\/\/ectahub.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/Big-Dreams-Curiousity-didnt-kill-the-cat-12x12.webp 12w, https:\/\/ectahub.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/Big-Dreams-Curiousity-didnt-kill-the-cat.webp 1080w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5344f853 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"5344f853\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u00c4mnen som behandlas<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-786ae590 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"786ae590\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<ul><li>Why curiosity is \u201ccognitive courage\u201d and how it rewires the brain for creativity<\/li><li><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">The 3 curiosity styles (mechanistic \/ teleological \/ cause-and-effect) and how to spot yours <\/span><\/li><li><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Brian Grazer\u2019s 35-year ritual of meeting remarkable strangers and the movies it birthed <\/span><\/li><li><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Tiny experiments: using daily 20-minute practices to go deeper into poetry and self-inquiry <\/span><\/li><li><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Building gentle accountability with ECtA\u2019s Quick Accountability Guide &amp; community workshops\u00a0<\/span><\/li><\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-62d1edf e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"62d1edf\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7f6c0e68 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"7f6c0e68\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Avsnitts\u00f6versikt<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-713a6ff0 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"713a6ff0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div><p><span lang=\"EN-US\">Curiosity is the engine that powers everything in this fast-moving episode. Hosts<span class=\"apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><strong data-start=\"189\" data-end=\"205\">Karina Kampe<\/strong><span class=\"apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>och<span class=\"apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><strong data-start=\"210\" data-end=\"233\">Maria Wronski-Ellis<\/strong><span class=\"apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>trade enlightening sharp turns\u2014from Oscar-winning producer<span class=\"apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><strong data-start=\"285\" data-end=\"303\">Brian Grazer\u2019s<\/strong><span class=\"apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>\u201ccuriosity conversations\u201d to a 1916 feminist poem remix\u2014showing how better questions unlock creativity, accountability and everyday joy. Along the way you\u2019ll learn the three scientific styles of curiosity, get a dopamine-driven tour of the brain, and pick up a 7-day micro-challenge that fits in your pocket. Whether you\u2019re a startup founder, a side-hustler or a lifelong learner, this episode proves curiosity isn\u2019t a cat-killer; it\u2019s your nine-life superpower.<\/span><\/p><\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-13b45f4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"13b45f4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Time-stamped guide<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b970307 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b970307\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>00:00<\/strong> Hollywood producer, Poets, Zoom-fika &amp; 21 century goal setting<br \/><strong>00:01<\/strong> Theme set-up &amp; weekly check-in (buying a Portuguese house, ocean dip, avoiding burnout)<br \/><strong>00:03<\/strong> The 3 kinds of curiosity: mechanistic, teleological, cause-and-effect<br \/><strong>00:05<\/strong> Storytime: Brian Grazer\u2019s first life-changing conversation<br \/><strong>00:08<\/strong> \u201cReal curiosity opens hearts\u201d: emotional curiosity &amp; Apollo 13<br \/><strong>00:11<\/strong> Brain science of the \u201ccuriosity gap\u201d &amp; dopamine hit<br \/><strong>00:14<\/strong> Sponsor break: ECtA Hub + free workshop (Aug 26)<br \/><strong>00:15<\/strong> Tiny-experiment recap: 7-day poetry deep-dive &amp; anaphora lesson<br \/><strong>00:18<\/strong> Karina reads her \u201cModern Woman\u201d poem remix<br \/><strong>00:20<\/strong> New 7-day challenge: ask one open question each day<br \/><strong>00:22<\/strong> Parenting reflection &amp; staying curious on vacation<br \/><strong>00:24<\/strong> Preview:\u00a0<em>The Passion-Driven Entrepreneur<\/em>\u00a0feat. Tonya Thorne<br \/><strong>00:25<\/strong> Links, thanks &amp; victory-dance sign-off<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-67599f48 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"67599f48\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u00a0<strong>\u00c4ven tillg\u00e4nglig p\u00e5:\u00a0<\/strong><a style=\"padding: 10px 20px; background-color: #1db954; color: white; border-radius: 25px; text-decoration: none;\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7BPIG2nmgBV6IKLf0sCbaO?si=3a4fcf0e9cd148fb\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify<\/a> <a style=\"padding: 10px 20px; background-color: #000; color: white; border-radius: 25px; text-decoration: none;\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/se\/podcast\/big-dreams-little-things\/id1802133530\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Apple Podcasts<\/a><\/p><p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/embed.acast.com\/672b895f5095c9add9ce7692?feed=true\" width=\"100%\" height=\"400px\" frameborder=\"0\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\"><\/span><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\"><\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-46620309 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"46620309\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;gradient&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-488e3b4d elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"488e3b4d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">External Resources &amp; Bonus Reading<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-385ea56 elementor-widget elementor-widget-video\" data-id=\"385ea56\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;youtube_url&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/www.youtube.com\\\/watch?v=IqA6c5vQlKg&quot;,&quot;video_type&quot;:&quot;youtube&quot;,&quot;controls&quot;:&quot;yes&quot;}\" data-widget_type=\"video.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-wrapper elementor-open-inline\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-video\"><\/div>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1ac53c92 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1ac53c92\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h4>Science of Curiosity<\/h4><ul><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cmu.edu\/dietrich\/sds\/docs\/loewenstein\/PsychofCuriosity.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Loewenstein G. (1994) \u201cThe Psychology of Curiosity\u201d<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/articles\/PMC4635443\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gottlieb &amp; Oudeyer (2018) \u201cThe Psychology &amp; Neuroscience of Curiosity\u201d<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/publication\/283511651_The_Psychology_and_Neuroscience_of_Curiosity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gottlieb et al. (2015) \u201cThe Neuroscience of Curiosity\u201d (<i>Neuron<\/i>)<\/a><\/li><\/ul><h4>Curiosity in Practice<\/h4><ul><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.grazeriscurious.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u201cA Curious Mind\u201d \u2013 Brian Grazer (book site)<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/science-and-philosophy\/what-is-curiosity-499ff1c50761\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Medium explainer: 6 scientific curiosity types<\/a><\/li><\/ul><h4>Edith S\u00f6dergran &amp; Modernism<\/h4><ul><li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Edith_S%C3%B6dergran\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Wikipedia overview<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.britannica.com\/topic\/Dikter-by-Sodergran\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Britannica entry on <i>Dikter<\/i> (1916)<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.poetryfoundation.org\/people\/edith-sodergran\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Poetry Foundation author page<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/sv.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Dikter_%28S%C3%B6dergran%29\/Vierge_moderne\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Original Swedish text of \u201cVierge moderne\u201d (\u201cDen moderna\u201d)<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6fb80824 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"6fb80824\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ectahub.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Workshop-Banner-2.png\" title=\"\" alt=\"Banner ad for ECtAs upcoming Workshop where you can Grow your solo biz \u2013 with clarity, rhythm and support\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b56faf3 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"b56faf3\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element 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